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why is john mccain so gri? why america? why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate. the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck hagel, a nightmare, by the way, whose flashbacks must haunt still the heart still of john sydney mccain. both are msnbc analysts. both of you, sir, and lady, are younger than me, but i must tell you i'm absolutely convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this. he did a long angry windup before he launched into his first so-called question which was really an indictment. it included putdowns as well as references
why is john mccain so gri? why america? why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate. the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political...
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john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home the most famous of them is angrier than ever. we are we fighting vietnam again in the u.s. senate. the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation. but just like he did, in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietnam. i'm joined by david corn with "mother jones" and joy reed with the grio. i have to tell you i'm convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this, here's senator john mccain, he did a long, angry wind-up before he launched into his first so-c
john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home the most famous of them is angrier than ever. we are we fighting vietnam again in the u.s. senate. the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in...
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in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander in chief and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. i watched that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and patrick murphy, the former pennsylvania congressman who served in iraq. both of them were at the bottom of the pile as he called it. you just view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam are so different. hagel took the questioning, the same as patrick murphy did, fielded lied to. >> here's lindsey graham. badgering hagel. badgering is the word for it. whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be termed a terroristic organization. i think this is aimed directly at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, if there were a vote tomorrow or this afternoon, would you still vote no? >> i would want to know from the
in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander in chief and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. i watched that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and patrick murphy, the former pennsylvania congressman who served in iraq. both of them were at the bottom of the pile as he called it. you just view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam are so different. hagel took the questioning, the same as...
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>> krystal, it is john mccain 3.0 or 4.0-i don't know, this is an amazing flashback when john mccain used to cooperate with democrats. >> very chummy there, and a quick turn about, recently he has been taking out his political grudges on susan rice and being very aggressive there. now he is back to the maverick john mccain, when he used to be the guy you could count on to looking at a bipartisan manner when acting in government. >> and here is the other striking political moment. john mccain explains what he thinks will be necessary to pass this bill, including what he calls the leadership of president obama. let's listen to this. >> i am confident the majority of both houses, led by the president of the united states, who made this a major campaign issue, that we will succeed. but we're not going to get everybody on board. >> steve kornacki, nothing prove s more strongly than that, that elections do have consequences. >> i can't help but think with john mccain, you're looking at a protection of legacy there. his reputation as a maverick was a bit over sold, what it really reflects,
>> krystal, it is john mccain 3.0 or 4.0-i don't know, this is an amazing flashback when john mccain used to cooperate with democrats. >> very chummy there, and a quick turn about, recently he has been taking out his political grudges on susan rice and being very aggressive there. now he is back to the maverick john mccain, when he used to be the guy you could count on to looking at a bipartisan manner when acting in government. >> and here is the other striking political...
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i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing, that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and pat murphy, the governor of pennsylvania who served in iraq. and both of those guys were at the bottom of the pile. and you view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam seems to have been so different. hagel took the questioning, the same thing patrick murphy feels, being lied to and feeling anger for knowing you friends died for what you believe to be a lie. >> here's lindsay graham, badgering defense nominee hagel. about his whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be designated terrorist organization. i think this is aimed at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon, to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, i
i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing, that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and pat murphy, the governor of pennsylvania who served in iraq. and both of those guys were at the bottom of the pile. and you view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam seems to have been so different....
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he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w. bush that year, now what is starting to become the more salient thing about that losing run, about that losing attempt at winning the republican presidential nomination, what seems more salient now is who john mccain's national co-chair was for that run. it was republican senator chuck hagel. there he is. you can see him in the little circle on the left there. with john mccain's entourage as john mccain was getting ready to launch his presidential bid back in 2000. this is the same chuck hagel who is president obama's nominee f
he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w....
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that's just unbelievable, that those words came out of john mccain's mouth. >> is mccain bitter? i mean, mccain really went after him. it looked like hagel was caught off guard, like john, you and i have been friends for a long time. i did some good things for you. i supported you when i needed it. and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was very personal. i was stunned by it, too. especially the way mccain kept pursuing it and pursuing it. clearly, john wanted chuck to say yes, i was wrong and you were right. and of course the verdict of history, as hagel tried to say, is still out on that. and frankly, in my view as a soldier, the surge had almost nothing to do with the actual increase in american troops. what it had to do was the coincidence of a number of things that were already moving in iraq. not least of which was the awakening. and it had to do with very frankly a general by the name of david petraeus taking advantage of this in o
that's just unbelievable, that those words came out of john mccain's mouth. >> is mccain bitter? i mean, mccain really went after him. it looked like hagel was caught off guard, like john, you and i have been friends for a long time. i did some good things for you. i supported you when i needed it. and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was...
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why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply in john mccain these days? it seems to excite those who knew nothing about vietnam but want to replay it. we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him all those years, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation back in 2000, but against a guy who fought against fear and rallied against wounds just like he did in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietna
why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply...
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the treatment of john kerry by john mccain versus chuck hagel and john mccain is night and day. we have to leave it there, but after the break top republicans m house and senate part way on a key debt ceiling bill. will the intraparty scism end in heartburn or heart break? for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so.... director's voice: cut it! ...what...what did i say? gecko? i said gecko? aw... for over 75 year...(laughs. but still trying to keep it contained) director's voice: keep it together. i'm good. i'm good. for over 75...(uncontrollable lahtuger). what are you doing there? stop making me laugh. vo: geico. saving people money for over seventy-five years. gecko: don't look at me. don't look at me. >>> the republican party is engaged in a fierce game of tug-of-war with itself. last week after speaker john boehner pleaded with his party to vote for a bill to extend the debt limit for three months, 33 members broke rank.
the treatment of john kerry by john mccain versus chuck hagel and john mccain is night and day. we have to leave it there, but after the break top republicans m house and senate part way on a key debt ceiling bill. will the intraparty scism end in heartburn or heart break? for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so.... director's voice: cut...
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especially from former colleague and fellow vietnam veteran john mccain. joining me now for our daily fix chris cali sfwl za managing editor of post politics.com, and nbc news chief pentagon krbt jim miklaccewski. snoo. >> you're watching the hearings closely. this thing not going that well for chuck hagel, at least with his critics, john mccain is a very important member of this committee. >> what is so striking, andrea, is that chuck hagel has had a series of meetings with more than 50 of the members of the senate. all the questions that would be put to him must have come up in those conversations, and yet, before this committee there were times where he looked ill-prepared for questions that would have been pretty easy to anticipate. at the same time you had democrats trying to in a couple of instances almost rehabilitate his answers to clarify his point. now, to the good side, he had the opportunity to talk about how his own service in vietnam and that of his brothers has given him perspective that wab valuable if confirmed as the defense secretary, bu
especially from former colleague and fellow vietnam veteran john mccain. joining me now for our daily fix chris cali sfwl za managing editor of post politics.com, and nbc news chief pentagon krbt jim miklaccewski. snoo. >> you're watching the hearings closely. this thing not going that well for chuck hagel, at least with his critics, john mccain is a very important member of this committee. >> what is so striking, andrea, is that chuck hagel has had a series of meetings with more...
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the kennedy-john mccain comprehensive bill included both security and a path to citizenship. it was written that none of the provisions could be enacted until five areas were achieved. here is what is really interesting, although the bill died we actually made a lot of progress on those provisions anyway. the border security provision largely got it done, even as the path to citizenship got largely left behind. northbound one, operation control the border between u.s. and mexico, that was never really defined. one definition said the whole border had to be under government surveillance. that is true, it is 100% monitored. another definition says we need to be able to quickly respond to any activity, any activity on the border. we're up 57%, up from 1 first in 2007. but experts believe it is just unbelievably impossible. provision number two, staff enhancements for border patrol to 20,000 full-time agents, check, there are currently 24,000. number three, strong barriers which include at least 7,000 physical barriers, plus 105 radar and camera towers and at least four unmanned
the kennedy-john mccain comprehensive bill included both security and a path to citizenship. it was written that none of the provisions could be enacted until five areas were achieved. here is what is really interesting, although the bill died we actually made a lot of progress on those provisions anyway. the border security provision largely got it done, even as the path to citizenship got largely left behind. northbound one, operation control the border between u.s. and mexico, that was never...
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john mccain one out and held over 100 townhall meetings. he stayed there until every answer was entered -- every question was answered. i mean, it was a refreshing candor. you can see it in the responses. he was open to the press. that candor and openness and a welcome this that no one had seen before and no one had seen since. >> lyrical analyst, mark shields, on his career in politics. sunday night at 8 p.m. on c- span's "q&a." >> you are watching "the communicators" in c-span. we are on location in less vegas at the 2
john mccain one out and held over 100 townhall meetings. he stayed there until every answer was entered -- every question was answered. i mean, it was a refreshing candor. you can see it in the responses. he was open to the press. that candor and openness and a welcome this that no one had seen before and no one had seen since. >> lyrical analyst, mark shields, on his career in politics. sunday night at 8 p.m. on c- span's "q&a." >> you are watching "the...
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john mccain has been on this issue before. it's not surprising but the real fresh face here is marco rubio. he seems to have spent a lot of time going to conservative talk radio to soften the ground. how important is this to him and how important is he to the whole issue? >> marco rubio is a really interesting player, in part because of his own story. he is the son of legal immigrants. >> from cuban to florida. >> right. he is an icon among conservatives who do see him as the future and he has a way of talking about this issue where he had rush limbaugh essentially eating out of his hand so i think that a lot of republicans do look to marco rubio has -- as sort of finding the path but statement you have the 12345r9 from louisiana saying -- senator from louisiana saying marco rubio is just naive. gwen: what about the president's role? they beat him to the punch in the announcement. he went to las vegas the next day and say me too and we hope they mean it. is he waiting for congress to take the lead? >> for now. this has been a
john mccain has been on this issue before. it's not surprising but the real fresh face here is marco rubio. he seems to have spent a lot of time going to conservative talk radio to soften the ground. how important is this to him and how important is he to the whole issue? >> marco rubio is a really interesting player, in part because of his own story. he is the son of legal immigrants. >> from cuban to florida. >> right. he is an icon among conservatives who do see him as the...
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please go ahead. >> outrageous part about that is john mccain -- i think john mccain. >> what a jerk. >> first of all, he is a jerk. i think john mccain does this whole thing where he is like, wait. there is cameras. oh, camera 2 and he smiles in thecam and he says i am going to act like a crazy person now to get some attention. he knows we are going to talk about it. >> we are talking being war. sometimes it's not a "yes" or "no" answer. it's just the fact. i like the fact this secretary of nominee is not so clear-cut on the issues. he has seen what war does. he served in vietnam. i know john mccain did too. >> i am glad you brought that point up. the interesting thing about this whole situation, this whole scenarios, is that you are correct, and john mccain is good for doing the same thing that chuck hagel did. every time we have a conflict with a third-world nation, he is luke we need to arm the rebels. i think there is a montage and drop -- insert country. bomb the rebels. >> that's the only answer that he has. and history proves, i.e. afghanistan, arming rebels kills american tro
please go ahead. >> outrageous part about that is john mccain -- i think john mccain. >> what a jerk. >> first of all, he is a jerk. i think john mccain does this whole thing where he is like, wait. there is cameras. oh, camera 2 and he smiles in thecam and he says i am going to act like a crazy person now to get some attention. he knows we are going to talk about it. >> we are talking being war. sometimes it's not a "yes" or "no" answer. it's just...
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john mccain, thanks. we have been down this road before but i feel very good about our chances this time. chuck, thank you for your leadership on this. i'm sure that marco and bob and lindsey and i understand that you've been the force behind us. if he's the glue, you're the force an it's worked. we have come to this moment. and here we are facing the issue of immigration. nothing new in america. this nation of immigrants is debating the issue of immigration since the first group got off the boat and wanted to know why the second group was coming. that's been our conversation in america from the beginning. but it really is critical to remember that those immigrants whose dna we carry had something special in their make-up to get up and move, to come to this great nation for an opportunity they couldn't find in another place. that's part of what we are today and secondly, it says quite a bit about our nation, about how many people want to come here in this free country with this opportunity for an expandin
john mccain, thanks. we have been down this road before but i feel very good about our chances this time. chuck, thank you for your leadership on this. i'm sure that marco and bob and lindsey and i understand that you've been the force behind us. if he's the glue, you're the force an it's worked. we have come to this moment. and here we are facing the issue of immigration. nothing new in america. this nation of immigrants is debating the issue of immigration since the first group got off the...
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i can say, though, john mccain is one of the -- he is serious about all the issues. he is treating this nomination like everything he --s with great seriousness, and i commend him for that. >> we're just learning that at least the associated press and the boston globe both reporting that scott brown will not be running for the seat next toor to you in rhode island. what do you think of that, since he was widely viewed as the biggest challenge to a perspective democrat running for that open seat? of course, the john kerry seat. >> i -- all politics is local. i'm a little surprised, but i -- my reaction would be that he has made a decision. he knows better than anyone what's it like to serve in the senate, what is it like to run for the senate, and you have to thank him for his service and respect his decision. >> and back to the hagel situation and what's going to happen at d.o.d. we've been talking here about how his performance, assuming that he does get confirmed, does that weaken him going into the pentagon where there are a lot of sharks ready to attack? >> no, a
i can say, though, john mccain is one of the -- he is serious about all the issues. he is treating this nomination like everything he --s with great seriousness, and i commend him for that. >> we're just learning that at least the associated press and the boston globe both reporting that scott brown will not be running for the seat next toor to you in rhode island. what do you think of that, since he was widely viewed as the biggest challenge to a perspective democrat running for that...
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you say we we have anything in the intervieth senator john mccain, hat did you hear? at isur take y that eight senators -- >> we have a path to citizenship end of story.immigration. look, youn talk senator john mccainnd others, but when but look the at politics of this, whate see are two political parties are sort of desperately trying to get through for very different reasons. romney only got 29 percent. e democrats areg to lock in the that danny ot a anent democratting rity and the republicans this and they are freaking out saying, we have to do something. the government willr not do that. whhey argue that yes, we are setting out a new setf enforcement, dronn the borderand allow the illegal to have a path to citizenship settin probationary pe, they have to go throughcc ground checks and payeir back xes, allf that sounds reasonable, but, the problem is we are a couf laws, not o are we now inviting a new wave, a new wave of illegals to come into theuntry? we have one example, o model for this, and thisis 1986. conservative, sign int an amnesty act a iiately it made al
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john mccain has a very clear understanding of the republican demographic problem. >> i'll give you a little straight talk. look at the last election. look at the last election. we are losing dramatically the hispanic vote, which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons. and we've got to understand that. >> but if john mccain wants to understand why the republican party faces this problem, he might want to watch some of his own campaign ads back from 2010. >> have we got the right plan? >> the plan is perfect. you bring troops, state, county, and local law enforcement together. >> and complete the dang fence. >> it will work this time. senator, you're one of us. >> i'm john mccain and i approve this message. >> well, politics does not exist in a vacuum. there are consequences to policies like self-deportation and killing the dream act to keep children of undocumented immigrants in the united states. senator dick durbin of illinois is intent on keeping a dream act component as part of the new legislation. >> the dream act is going to be an integral part of comprehensive immigra
john mccain has a very clear understanding of the republican demographic problem. >> i'll give you a little straight talk. look at the last election. look at the last election. we are losing dramatically the hispanic vote, which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons. and we've got to understand that. >> but if john mccain wants to understand why the republican party faces this problem, he might want to watch some of his own campaign ads back from 2010. >> have we...
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john mccain knows that. but the surge is his baby. it's what he ran on in 2008. he lost and he's out for revenge. >> and chuck hagel was -- it was a very important moment when chuck hagel as a republican came out against the surge. that was a big deal to them. jonathan, it also struck me watching these hearings just how differently mccain and hagel seem to have been impacted by their vietnam experience. hagel was quoted in vietnam magazine last fall saying, quote, the night tom and i were medevacked out of that village in april 1968, i told myself if i ever get out of this and i'm ever in a position to influence policy, i will do everything i can to avoid needless, senseless war. now, that seems like a very sensible response. that also seems like a response that will color his judgment certainly as we look at winding down the war in afghanistan and sort of the rest of our presence in the middle east. and yet republicans seem to be using that against him. >> well, a little context. the tom that he refers to is his brother, tom hagel, who amazingly enough was in th
john mccain knows that. but the surge is his baby. it's what he ran on in 2008. he lost and he's out for revenge. >> and chuck hagel was -- it was a very important moment when chuck hagel as a republican came out against the surge. that was a big deal to them. jonathan, it also struck me watching these hearings just how differently mccain and hagel seem to have been impacted by their vietnam experience. hagel was quoted in vietnam magazine last fall saying, quote, the night tom and i were...
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what's your reaction to what senator john mccain said about this? obviously you've been working with him and know -- in terms of immigration. i don't think you've been working together on some of that other stuff so much. >> i think john said it well. i am cautiously optimistic and as someone who spent years between the house and the senate, trying to get comprehensive immigration reform i'm cautiously optimistic. i see the right spirit. i see things that were once off the table for agreement and discussion being on the table with a serious pathway forward. of course, it will have the enhancement of the border security. we've done already a lot with more customs agents. we have more border patrol. more physical impediment than any time in history but using greater technology, focusing our resources go a better way is something that we'll achieve. looking at making sure employers don't hire individuals who are undocumented, thinking about future flows and how we take care of the american economy by that. but also very clearly having a pathway to earn
what's your reaction to what senator john mccain said about this? obviously you've been working with him and know -- in terms of immigration. i don't think you've been working together on some of that other stuff so much. >> i think john said it well. i am cautiously optimistic and as someone who spent years between the house and the senate, trying to get comprehensive immigration reform i'm cautiously optimistic. i see the right spirit. i see things that were once off the table for...
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the senator john mccain was confirmed on tuesday to be her successor. and he will be sworn in on friday. >>> "the new york times" has a message for anybody dealing with china. don't cross the kingpins ruling the country. the times is accusing the chinese hackers of attacking and breaking into its computer system and then stealing the passwords of high-profile reporters and other staff members. the newspaper says it occurred over the past four months after the "times" ran articles on the wealth reportedly accumulated by relatives of china's premiere. china says the allegations are, quote, groundless and irresponsible. >>> i want to take you to that terrifying story of a little boy being held captive by a strange man in alabama. a man he does not know. a man who shot the school bus driver and made off in an underground bunker that he's been building for sometime now. it's now day three of the ordeal for the 5-year-old deal. the young victim has aspberg's syndrome and adhd. law enforcement analyst mike brooks joins me now. mike, when there's a child involv
the senator john mccain was confirmed on tuesday to be her successor. and he will be sworn in on friday. >>> "the new york times" has a message for anybody dealing with china. don't cross the kingpins ruling the country. the times is accusing the chinese hackers of attacking and breaking into its computer system and then stealing the passwords of high-profile reporters and other staff members. the newspaper says it occurred over the past four months after the...
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when john mccain and actually john kerry were working on normalization on the p.o.w., m.i.a. question, john mccain almost came to blows with someone in his own party, with chuck grassley in iowa. he is volatile, temperamental. you have not just the relitigation of everything wered vietnam between these two people who served there, but the relitigation about iraq, which is what's worse, opposing the surge or proposing the colossal mistake of invading iraq in the first place? so there's a lot that's packed into a yes or no. tell me what you really think as well as obviously you're losing an election against the president and wanted to mess with him. mccain's psychodrama is face naturing, but it's not really about foreign he policy or defense policy. >> the mccain psychodrama extends to other members. the psychodrama extendstory members of the senate foreign relations committee. lindsey graham. this is lindsey graham yesterday on fox talking about -- let's just play the sound. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of d
when john mccain and actually john kerry were working on normalization on the p.o.w., m.i.a. question, john mccain almost came to blows with someone in his own party, with chuck grassley in iowa. he is volatile, temperamental. you have not just the relitigation of everything wered vietnam between these two people who served there, but the relitigation about iraq, which is what's worse, opposing the surge or proposing the colossal mistake of invading iraq in the first place? so there's a lot...